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Dec 8, 2012 7:00am EST
say that in the case of gaza which you mentioned, rob, that was a very series component. any thoughts how to combat that or includes this in the right direction? >> for the record i'm against corruption. [laughter] , good, good, good. >> wanted to clear that up. yes, look. it goes back to the point i thought it made in my remarks that islamists didn't win and non-islamists lost, whether they were the former corrupt regimes or the divisions among the non-islamist parties today, they lose. they lose by screwing up the delivery of services. they lose by being so corrupt. they lose by being ossified. they lose, and i islamists are there like they been for eight years to take advantage of whatever opportunity, violence or through nonviolence. we didn't discuss their relationship with violence and nonviolence just a very important issue, and they are there like vultures to reap the benefits, to reap the kerry and of these regimes. we can build, we can help them, healthy alternatives build better alternatives. >> we have a question in the far corner over there. >> yes. i'm with the center fo
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